[pLog-svn] Get rid of encoding

Oscar Renalias oscar at renalias.net
Thu Dec 30 19:12:32 GMT 2004


Well I have to admit that it was a bit of a mistake not to go with 
UTF-8 since the very beginning but I wasn't expecting this to get so 
big :-) But now it seems that it is too late for this kind of change... 
And making users through the hassle of updating their posts from 
whatever encoding they're using now to UTF-8 is way too much, and I 
don't want to spend 99% of my time giving support in the forums.

I also don't like doing too many upgrades to the db between releases. I 
am already quite concerned about 1.0 because it messes around with a 
lot of things from the db... It creates new tables, adds a zillion of 
indexes, moves data from one table to another, etc. We'll see how it 
goes during the beta!!

Oscar

On 30 Dec 2004, at 19:51, Benjamin Krause wrote:

>
> Am Dec 30, 2004 um 19:44 Uhr schrieb Oscar Renalias:
>
>> Definitely, no.
>>
>> The reason is simple: people already have lots of text in iso-8859-1, 
>> or big5, or any other encoding stored in the database. Changing the 
>> default encoding of the site now would break all old posts. It might 
>> not matter for you so much if you have 15 posts but it will mean lots 
>> of trouble for sites with 1000, 2000 or 25000 posts.
>>
>> Keep in mind that 1.0 is not a new version but rather an upgrade to a 
>> piece of software that has been running for over 1.5 years now so we 
>> have to try to break as little as possible when people roll out an 
>> upgrade to their sites...
>>
>> So please let's leave it as it is. It's been working fine so far 
>> anyway...
>
> well, to convert all db stored text to utf-8 isn't that big of a 
> problem, and i bet
> you will have to get rid of encodings sooner or later.
>
> but i see your point.. if this software is already in use with huge 
> amount
> of entries, this migration might cause problems.
>
> as long as its just mysql that is supported, converting all existing 
> posts
> is not that complicated. with a db independent code, you cannot convert
> all texts to utf-8 so easily.
>
> anyway.. i'll leave it the way it is :)
>
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