[pLog-general] Wiki status

[bcliang]

What do you think about migrating the stylesheet fom grey into the
mediawiki?  Revised usage for headers, paragraphs, linebreaks, and the
like.  I took a quick look, and I'm almost positive that it requires
an admin account to manage?  I guess it's really more of a cosmetic
thing that should be addressed when the content is there, but just
throwing it out there now.

Brad


On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 11:20:18 -0800, Nick Gerakines <nick at socklabs.com> wrote:
> Hey folks,
> 
> Made some updates, tell me what you think about this section. Also made the changes
> outlined in the last email as well as a few other things. I started filling the general
> documentation section with content.
> 
> Do we want to duplicate the documentation on the wiki plog release page and the page's
> documenation page or just have one link. I was looking through it and all of it seems
> organic search engine friendly, its really up to you. I might just make a template out of
> the documentation page and have it included/displayed on both.
> 
> http://devel.plogworld.net/wiki/index.php/PLog_0.3.2/Documentation
> 
> Questions? Comments? Rants? Raves? Flames?
> 
> ~ Nick
> 
> 
> 
> Oscar Renalias wrote:
> >
> > First of all, I've given systop status to both you and Brad.
> >
> > Second, regarding the structure... I like the idea of separating things
> > in version but I think that the current version should be always on the
> > front page so for example if we now base the contents of the wiki on
> > 0.3.2, then the "Todo List", "Documentation", "Usage" sections would
> > appear right away in the front page. When 1.0 is released and we update
> > the wiki contents, then all the old sections would be moved to plog
> > 0.3.2/Todo list, plog 0.3.2/Documentation etc while the front page would
> > have the updated sections for 1.0.
> >
> > I'm suggesting this because it would save users time if all contents are
> > there, facing users right away.
> >
> > By the way, one important question: are we going to write about 0.3.2 or
> > 1.0? If I had to choose, I would write about 1.0... It's almost
> > feature-complete and it would be nice to have updated documentation by
> > the time 1.0 is out!
> >
> > Also if we use Nick's proposal as the strucutre:
> >
> >> Todo List
> >> Documentation
> >> Usage
> >> Admin Usage
> >> Developer Usage
> >> Themes or Developer Usage/Themes
> >> Plugins or Developer Usage/Plugins
> >> Plugin Lists
> >
> >
> > I will suggest a few changes and make a few questions :)
> >
> > - Why don't we add a section called "Installation" so that it can be
> > clearly seen? (it should probably go on top as the first one) It was
> > probably one of the most visited pages in the old wiki!
> >
> > - What would go into "Documentation"? Or what's the difference between
> > "Documentation" and "Usage"?
> >
> > - I would rename "Developer Usage" as just "Developers" or "For
> > developers". I suppose I could add there all the stuff related to
> > developing plugins, actions, views, object model, etc.
> >
> > - I would move "Todo list" away from the top to either inside
> > "Developers" or to the bottom of the list...
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Regarding locking pages and so on, I agree. Let's try not to receive too
> > much spam this time :-) Also regarding things like the "discussion"
> > pages, are they really needed? In addition to the mailing lists, forums
> > and project blog, do we really want people to leave comments in the
> > wiki? In my opinion we shoulnd't, I think that there are enough ways for
> > people to express their opinions and that we don't need such feature in
> > the wiki...
> >
> > Oscar
> >
> >> Howdy,
> >>
> >> The format that I'm using with this is pretty loose compared to
> >> others. I'm not using the standard wiki words, so in these cases
> >> spaces are perfectly acceptable. Each page associated with a plog
> >> release follows the following
> >>
> >> '<name> <version number>'
> >>
> >> Then each sub section has its own page as well. I'm trying to keep
> >> with a standard set of sub sections. In this case they are
> >> Todo List
> >> Documentation
> >> Usage
> >> Admin Usage
> >> Developer Usage
> >> Themes or Developer Usage/Themes
> >> Plugins or Developer Usage/Plugins
> >> Plugin Lists
> >>
> >> With that in mind the wiki entry for plog 0.3.2 would have the
> >> following structure.
> >>
> >> PLog 0.3.2
> >> PLog 0.3.2/Todo List
> >> PLog 0.3.2/Documentation
> >> PLog 0.3.2/Usage
> >> PLog 0.3.2/Admin Usage
> >> PLog 0.3.2/Developer Usage
> >> PLog 0.3.2/Themes
> >> PLog 0.3.2/Plugins
> >>
> >> Questions, Comments, Suggestions, Flames?
> >>
> >> ~ Nick
> >>
> >> bcliang wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi guys,
> >>>
> >>> I quickly browsed the mediawiki, but am confused at the layout.  There
> >>> seems to be two separate formats in use, one with the previously
> >>> mentioned XX: Y(X) format, while others are based on the older wiki
> >>> page entries.  Additionally, I like the outline for the revision
> >>> history.  It's done quite nicely.
> >>>
> >>> However, what would you guys think about moving the official
> >>> information from the plogworld.org mainpage and into the wiki (I'm
> >>> saying migrate the to-do list into the wiki and reference it from
> >>> home).  It's obvious that having the same information twice may become
> >>> quite tedious, however much the repeated content may help end-users.
> >>> The question is, which location would be ideal?  If we want to grow
> >>> the wiki I would vote for moving more of the content towards it.  If
> >>> not for the current release run on the main page, for archived
> >>> releases (0.1b, 0.2, 0.3, 0.3.1, etc).
> >>>
> >>> BTW, mediaWiki seems nice, though it's a bit more complex than the
> >>> phpWiki I'm used to.  It'll just take some time to feel it out, I
> >>> guess.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:29:30 -0800, Nick Gerakines
> >>> <nick at socklabs.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I started with some minor modifications. I've also started a general
> >>>> format for things.
> >>>> Oscar, please make me my account Sock a site op / site admin. I'm
> >>>> probly going to lock
> >>>> certain pages and start forcing people to use the corrosponding
> >>>> XX:Talk pages for public
> >>>> comments and such.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also strongly encourage all of the developers to create user
> >>>> accounts and add there
> >>>> names to the Developers and Contributers lists.
> >>>>
> >>>> Message me if anyone has any questions or comments.
> >>>>
> >>>> ~ Nick
> >>>>
> >>>> Oscar Renalias wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've already been able to install mediawiki, available at
> >>>>> http://www.plogworld.org/wiki
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You need to create a user to be able to edit... How are we going to
> >>>>> proceed? Copy+paste all the texts from plog.bliang.com/wiki?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oscar
> >>>>>
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