[pLog-svn] 1.2.6 release?

Tue Jan 22 10:46:05 EST 2008

 	Sounds okay to me.  We okay to release?

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Mark Wu wrote:

> You can also check the some wordpress demo site, for example, this site:
>
> http://demos.vortexhost.com/wordpress/?p=2  (exist)
>
> http://demos.vortexhost.com/wordpress/?p=3 (does not exsit)
>
> both of them return 200 ok.
>
> Mark
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net
>> [mailto:plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net] On Behalf Of Jon Daley
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:14 PM
>> To: LifeType Developer List
>> Subject: Re: [pLog-svn] 1.2.6 release?
>>
>> http://bugs.lifetype.net/view.php?id=1435
>>
>> Fixing the cache and the spam/pipeline issue are the main
>> issues for this release.
>>
>> I just looked through the wordpress code quickly, and can't
>> see the 404 handler.  Do you know what file it is in?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Mark Wu wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jon:
>>>
>>> You can just check the wordpress, they implement the same idea, too.
>>>
>>> BTW, what cache bug?
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net
>>>> [mailto:plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net] On Behalf Of Jon Daley
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:43 PM
>>>> To: LifeType Developer List
>>>> Subject: Re: [pLog-svn] 1.2.6 release?
>>>>
>>>>  	I haven't had much luck finding out any documentation
>>>> on what the correct answer is.  To me, it seems that the
>>>> search engines should be smart enough to parse the parameters
>>>> correctly, and if they get a 404 with one parameter and a 200
>>>> with another, not get confused and throw out the whole site.
>>>>
>>>>  	I finally found one article that says what someone else
>>>> does, which is what I expected.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.spip.net/en_article3583.html
>>>>
>>>>  	I tried looking up the definitions of URI, URL, URN to
>>>> see if parameters were included in that definition, but I
>>>> could't find that answer.
>>>>
>>>>  	In any case, I would rather release what you have
>>>> checked in than delay the release any longer.  A couple more
>>>> people have seen the cache bug, and it'd be nice to solve that.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Mark Wu wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Reto & Jon:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry  for the late reply. Busy recently.
>>>>>
>>>>> URL = Universal "Resource" Locator
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason that we return 200 instead of 404 in "native url
>>>> mode" is
>>>>> becasue the "resource" in "native url mode" is the script itself
>>>>> instead of the whole url.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, the "script" does "founded" in ths case,  return 200
>> is a valid
>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> But in Custom/Pretty/Reqrite mode, the resource is the
>>>> "whole url string".
>>>>> (Just like the RESTful url)
>>>>>
>>>>> So, we did not found the "URL", and we should return 404,
>>>> instead of 200.
>>>>> Even we already provide a error page here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net
>>>>>> [mailto:plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net] On Behalf
>> Of Jon Daley
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:45 AM
>>>>>> To: LifeType Developer List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [pLog-svn] 1.2.6 release?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Mark Wu wrote:
>>>>>>> About the bug(or say issue) about return 404 or 200 status
>>>>>> code ... I
>>>>>>> think we should fix it before we release 1.2.6
>>>>>>  	ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. If we use raw url (native url),  we should return the
>>>> customized
>>>>>>> page( with our current error page "article fetch error")
>>>> with http
>>>>>>> response status 200. Becasue in native url, the script
>>>> name is the
>>>>>>> reasouce we want to fetch, the other parts just only parameters.
>>>>>>  	Is that necessary?  I would expect either search
>>>> engines to not be
>>>>>> able to search a parameterized site at all, or be able to
>>>> distinguish
>>>>>> different parameters as different sites, and so not think
>>>> that a 404
>>>>>> on one page would mean a
>>>>>> 404 on all others.  I was under the impression that
>> search engines
>>>>>> didn't like parameterized sites, and so that is why we
>> created the
>>>>>> "search engine friendly" URLs before we had custom URLs.  But, I
>>>>>> don't really know the answer to that, and if someone else
>>>> says that
>>>>>> isn't how it works, then we should return a 200.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. If we use custom/pretty/mod_rewrite url, we should return
>>>>>>> customized page( with our current error page "article fetch
>>>>>> error" )
>>>>>>> with http reponse status 404. Becasue the "whole url" is
>>>>>> the resource
>>>>>>> we want to fetch. These three kind of url is more similar
>>>>>> to RESTful url ...
>>>>>>  	That sounds good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** There will be one problem if we use this method. In ie6,
>>>>>> if it get
>>>>>>> 404 status, it will redirect to it's own 404 page in
>>>> local desktop.
>>>>>>> But, I think it is okay.
>>>>>>  	That is a setting in IE6 (and IE7 I think), and
>> that is the
>>>>>> person's choice, and we shouldn't design around that.
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