[pLog-svn] 1.2.6 release?

Mark Wu markplace at gmail.com
Tue Jan 22 09:51:59 EST 2008


Hi Jon:

You can just check the wordpress, they implement the same idea, too.

BTW, what cache bug?

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net 
> [mailto:plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net] On Behalf Of Jon Daley
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:43 PM
> To: LifeType Developer List
> Subject: Re: [pLog-svn] 1.2.6 release?
> 
>  	I haven't had much luck finding out any documentation 
> on what the correct answer is.  To me, it seems that the 
> search engines should be smart enough to parse the parameters 
> correctly, and if they get a 404 with one parameter and a 200 
> with another, not get confused and throw out the whole site.
> 
>  	I finally found one article that says what someone else 
> does, which is what I expected.
> 
> http://www.spip.net/en_article3583.html
> 
>  	I tried looking up the definitions of URI, URL, URN to 
> see if parameters were included in that definition, but I 
> could't find that answer.
> 
>  	In any case, I would rather release what you have 
> checked in than delay the release any longer.  A couple more 
> people have seen the cache bug, and it'd be nice to solve that.
> 
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Mark Wu wrote:
> 
> > Hi Reto & Jon:
> >
> > Sorry  for the late reply. Busy recently.
> >
> > URL = Universal "Resource" Locator
> >
> > The reason that we return 200 instead of 404 in "native url 
> mode" is 
> > becasue the "resource" in "native url mode" is the script itself 
> > instead of the whole url.
> >
> > So, the "script" does "founded" in ths case,  return 200 is a valid 
> > behavior.
> >
> > But in Custom/Pretty/Reqrite mode, the resource is the 
> "whole url string".
> > (Just like the RESTful url)
> >
> > So, we did not found the "URL", and we should return 404, 
> instead of 200.
> > Even we already provide a error page here.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net
> >> [mailto:plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net] On Behalf Of Jon Daley
> >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:45 AM
> >> To: LifeType Developer List
> >> Subject: Re: [pLog-svn] 1.2.6 release?
> >>
> >> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Mark Wu wrote:
> >>> About the bug(or say issue) about return 404 or 200 status
> >> code ... I
> >>> think we should fix it before we release 1.2.6
> >>  	ok.
> >>
> >>> 1. If we use raw url (native url),  we should return the 
> customized 
> >>> page( with our current error page "article fetch error") 
> with http 
> >>> response status 200. Becasue in native url, the script 
> name is the 
> >>> reasouce we want to fetch, the other parts just only parameters.
> >>  	Is that necessary?  I would expect either search 
> engines to not be 
> >> able to search a parameterized site at all, or be able to 
> distinguish 
> >> different parameters as different sites, and so not think 
> that a 404 
> >> on one page would mean a
> >> 404 on all others.  I was under the impression that search engines 
> >> didn't like parameterized sites, and so that is why we created the 
> >> "search engine friendly" URLs before we had custom URLs.  But, I 
> >> don't really know the answer to that, and if someone else 
> says that 
> >> isn't how it works, then we should return a 200.
> >>
> >>> 2. If we use custom/pretty/mod_rewrite url, we should return 
> >>> customized page( with our current error page "article fetch
> >> error" )
> >>> with http reponse status 404. Becasue the "whole url" is
> >> the resource
> >>> we want to fetch. These three kind of url is more similar
> >> to RESTful url ...
> >>  	That sounds good.
> >>
> >>> ** There will be one problem if we use this method. In ie6,
> >> if it get
> >>> 404 status, it will redirect to it's own 404 page in 
> local desktop.
> >>> But, I think it is okay.
> >>  	That is a setting in IE6 (and IE7 I think), and that is the 
> >> person's choice, and we shouldn't design around that.
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