[pLog-svn] Process size

Ayalon ayalon at blog.nl
Thu Dec 14 07:32:47 GMT 2006


Hi Oscar,

Thanks for your email. But anyway, we're not allowing apache to grow so big,
it's php with e mem limit of 32. If I try to run it with a lower value the
pages with comments are not shown (100+ comments). So do I have another
choice?

Jon: I'll true to get the logs to show you what yahoo is hitting..
Jon2: Can you see anything on devel? 

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net
[mailto:plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net] Namens Oscar Renalias
Verzonden: donderdag 14 december 2006 8:28
Aan: plog-svn at devel.lifetype.net
Onderwerp: Re: [pLog-svn] Process size

In addition to all I said before, why do you allow up to 32mb to each Apache
project? I think that's too much, nowadays 8-12mb should be a more
reasonable figure. If there's memory leaks somewhere in PHP (not in our
code, remember that there's no way to explicitely deallocate an object in
PHP code as far as I know), 32mb isn't exactly going to help...

On 12/14/06, Oscar Renalias <oscar at renalias.net> wrote:
> No, we're not checking anything. From Lifetype's point of view, we 
> don't really care about who is making the request.
>
> Could it be that the Yahoo blog is performing searches? You should be 
> able to see what kind of requests the crawler is making by referencing 
> the timestamps you posted below from apache's error log file with the 
> data you've got in the access log. The apache access log should 
> contain the exact request, please find it and post it here, otherwise 
> we're just guessing.
>
> On 14 Dec 2006, at 00:15, Ayalon wrote:
>
> > Nope, there's nobody who has so many post in the mainpage as I 
> > configure everybody's blog.
> >
> > It's not just an issue with all bots, it's only with yahoo bot. When 
> > searching the net I found more similair problems. No check is done 
> > who is coming on the site or something??
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net
> > [mailto:plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net] Namens Oscar Renalias
> > Verzonden: woensdag 13 december 2006 23:10
> > Aan: plog-svn at devel.lifetype.net
> > Onderwerp: Re: [pLog-svn] Process size
> >
> > I guess it's the same issue we had in devel.lifetype.net.
> >
> > One thing you should check is whether you've got any user who has 
> > configured his/her blog to display something like 80 or 100 posts in 
> > the front page, as that can cause performance problems. There's 
> > already a fix for that in LT 1.2, but in the meantime you will have 
> > to keep an eye on it on your own.
> > Otherwise a crawler performs the exact same operations as a user via 
> > a browser would do.
> >
> > On 13 Dec 2006, at 20:48, Ayalon wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, I found the problem, and I tell you it's really strange but true:
> >>
> >> The yahoo bot (inktomi bot) is hitting my site and then the 
> >> Cache_lite.php is for some reason using to much memory:
> >>
> >> [Tue Dec 12 00:01:44 2006] [error] [client 74.6.85.156] PHP Fatal
> >> error:
> >> Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate
> >> 84 bytes)
> >> in /data/www/www.blog.nl/class/cache/Cache_Lite/Lite.php on line 
> >> 352
> >>
> >> [Tue Dec 12 00:05:27 2006] [error] [client 74.6.86.205] PHP Fatal
> >> error:
> >> Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate
> >> 93 bytes)
> >> in /data/www/www.blog.nl/class/cache/Cache_Lite/Lite.php on line 
> >> 352
> >>
> >>
> >> When a normal user is hitting the site, there's nothing at all.
> >> When the bot
> >> is hitting my site this is happening with a lot of the requests.
> >> Also the
> >> apache process is growing so big that at the end the process is 
> >> using so much memory that it's starting to use the swap.
> >>
> >> What can cause this problem? Now I blocked yahoo bot via htaccess 
> >> and the problem is not there anymore. It started to happen after 
> >> the upgrade to the new lifetype platform. Are there some checks for 
> >> who is coming in?
> >> Do you
> >> need more data?
> >>
> >> Anyway it's strange and interesting, anybody an idea....??
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >> Van: plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net
> >> [mailto:plog-svn-bounces at devel.lifetype.net] Namens Jon Daley
> >> Verzonden: woensdag 13 december 2006 17:06
> >> Aan: plog-svn at devel.lifetype.net
> >> Onderwerp: RE: [pLog-svn] Process size
> >>
> >> On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, Ayalon wrote:
> >>> Where can I find the post of the rewrite?
> >> http://forums.lifetype.net/viewtopic.php?p=23240&highlight=htaccess
> >> +rewrite+
> >> error
> >>
> >>> Anyway my provider is telling me that it looks like lifetype has 
> >>> memoryleaks in various aspects of the script, starting with caching.
> >>> Is
> >> that possible?
> >>      It is certainly possible.  I would expect to see more memory 
> >> usage in my setup if that were the case.
> >>
> >>> Is it possible to disable everything related to cache lift? Just 
> >>> to test some things...
> >>      Line 39 of class/cache/cachemanager.class.php.  Change 
> >> $cacheEnable to false.  I think that should do the trick.
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