[pLog-svn] Suggestions for PLOG team

[nick nizhenyuan]

Hi,  Jon Daley

I am not here to criticize something or some person, I am just trying
to communicate with the team to make our idear known because we are
the users of it and certainly hope it will fit us more.

In the other hand, I know that you have your own roadmap and planning.
So if you think what I am saying is not important or not right, I hope
you ignore it:).


Anyway I like plog and I began using it since last August, that's why
I am sitting here and writing so many words that possibly annoy other
person.

Our environment is different. Our standpoint is also different. The
same thing is we all like plog and hope it will grow stronger day by
day.The different thing is as a small BSP, who will face a lot of end
users with all kinds of backgrounds, we have to concern about  almost
each user's  requirement.

So it's natural that we think things differently, but It doesn't matter at all:)














On 6/2/05, Jon Daley <plogworld at daley.snurgle.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, nick nizhenyuan wrote:
> > (It worried me a lot that although 1600 person registerd on my site, but
> > only several persons keep using it),
>        My guess would be that that happens to everyone - people are just
> checking things out, maybe not even sure if they want to blog, but their
> friend said that they just *have* to do it, so they sign up, maybe post
> once, to see that it works, and then realize that they don't have the
> time, aren't interested in posting their thoughts to the world, etc.
>        I think a more telling statistic would be, how many people do you
> have that used plog for a month or so, and then never came back.  I would
> guess that those sorts of people switched to another service.
>        Additionally, I'll bet it is like version control programs - if
> you research which program you should use for a corporate environment (ie.
> have the bucks to fork up if it ends up being a better product) you will
> find that everyone complains about all of them, and as I told people I was
> looking into switching, I found that a number of companies were also
> switching, VSS to PVCS, PVCS to Perforce, Perforce to Subversion,
> Subversion to VSS, etc. people know what things they don't like, see that
> another product doesn't have those problems, switch, but in 6 months
> realize that the new product has all sorts of other oddities that they
> didn't know about.  (I ended up sticking with PVCS, since we already know
> their downsides, bugs, etc).
>        There are a ton of free blog providers, and so it fairly painless
> to switch, particularly if a user hasn't posted very much stuff.
>        I think it would be great to hear from more users, not just that
> it is too hard, but specific things that would make it easier.
>        I think you are probably right in your statement that after they
> use it for a bit, they are fine, but the initial glance can be
> overwhelming.
>        I posted this on the forums the other day, but I will say it
> again.
>        I have gotten four other people to start using pLog, a
> computer science phd, a home-maker, a grandmother, and a Christian campus
> minister (degree in biology).
>        The programmer has had some trouble with the install, 0.3.2 to 1.0
> to 1.0.1, mostly small things, and figured it was easier to call me then
> to look for documentation.  He hasn't touched the templates yet,
> except for a couple minor things, just hasn't had time to work on them.
> He has integrated his blog into his main page, using the api calls, I
> think did it before Oscar had his API page done, so just poked through the
> class files.
>        The homemaker (my wife) hasn't modified anything, just posts, so
> she maybe doesn't count, as she doesn't need to think about admin sorts of
> things, I found out the other day, she hasn't ever clicked on anything
> except "manage" in the dashboard.
>        The grandmother started with my template, but has made extensive
> changes on 0.3.2, will eventually switch to 1.0, particularly if I can get
> the auth and blogstatistics plugins working.  She is looking into writing
> her own plugin, and has looked all over the place in the admin section.
> She has learned HTML over the last couple of years, and has found smarty
> easy to learn.
>        The campus minister, who hasn't ever touched HTML in his life, has
> been blogging away like a madman, using the resources, and has modified
> the templates a little.  He has been helped extensively by the jupload and
> template editor plugins.  I think he thought the admin section was fine,
> he went through one by one and looked at all the settings, asked questions
> about some, and presumably ignored others.  I don't believe he has ever
> looked at the documentation/forums/etc.  And I haven't answered all that
> many questions.
>        Who knows who actually read all this, I tend to ramble too much,
> but I think I have a decent cross section of people, of course including
> myself who I think blacksnday includes in the "developers have always
> hated me for years" stuff, and of course, I only heard about plog last
> May, hmm, that is actually longer than I thought it was, I guess I only
> started actively working on development stuff in November or so.
> 
> 
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