[pLog-svn] [Discussion] About the sub-license/re-license to plogplugins

Mark Wu markplace at gmail.com
Mon Aug 8 09:20:21 GMT 2005


I saw that, too :D Interesting.

Mark 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: plog-svn-bounces at devel.plogworld.net 
> [mailto:plog-svn-bounces at devel.plogworld.net] On Behalf Of 
> Alexander Kaiser
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 3:15 PM
> To: plog-svn at devel.plogworld.net
> Subject: Re: [pLog-svn] [Discussion] About the 
> sub-license/re-license to plogplugins
> 
> so these articles posted by marc say pretty much that if the 
> team core says's it's ok, then it's ok?! that's interesting.
> 
> alex
> 
> 2005/8/8, Mark Wu <markplace at gmail.com>:
> > Don't worry. We won't sue anyone.
> > 
> > I also discussed with Oscar before about this. I think 
> Oscar has "Oral 
> > Agreement" for us that we can change the license. The 
> problem is this 
> > oral agreement conflict with GPL v2. Unless we change the 
> license to 
> > LGPL or others (maybe dual license), or I don't think we can 
> > re-license or sub-license "legally"...
> > 
> > About donation? I plan to do what Matt said in previous, I 
> will try to 
> > bind donation with download process.... :D
> > 
> > Mmm ... I will release hotprevention follow GPL v2. It is a easy 
> > plugin anyway ... Hee hee, I think I should re-license 
> templateeditor, 
> > it is really a complex plugin :P
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: plog-svn-bounces at devel.plogworld.net
> > > [mailto:plog-svn-bounces at devel.plogworld.net] On Behalf Of Matt
> > > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 12:36 PM
> > > To: alex at pooliestudios.com; plog-svn at devel.plogworld.net
> > > Subject: Re: [pLog-svn] [Discussion] About the 
> > > sub-license/re-licenseto plogplugins
> > >
> > > Alexander Kaiser wrote:
> > > > hmm. as for other open source projects i work on with, like 
> > > > osCommerce, i know that the contributions (plugins) must be
> > > released
> > > > under the gpl because they get integrated in the 
> system, doesn't 
> > > > matter if a user does that or it gets automatically 
> added by the 
> > > > system.
> > >
> > > I did some research...
> > >
> > > 
> http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/07/09/gpl-clarification-continued/
> > > http://elver.cellosoft.com/2005/06/19/misuse-of-gpl/
> > >
> > > an interesting aside here about interpreted languages...
> > > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#IfInterpreterIsGPL
> > > and this...
> > > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#IfLibraryIsGPL
> > > and a gpl extension specifically allowing plugins to be licensed 
> > > otherwise...
> > > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#LinkingOverControlled
> > > Interface
> > >
> > > and discussing all of the above...
> > > http://forum.textpattern.com/viewtopic.php?pid=22504
> > >
> > > It seems from reading many sources online and the above 
> article, as 
> > > long as "the pLog Team" says that plugins/extensions may have 
> > > different licenses then you are then allowed to do so. 
> Which follows 
> > > from what I understood in more succinct wording.
> > >
> > > But also on the contrary, because most plugins use the 
> AdminAction 
> > > or BlogAction classes they are using pLog core code and 
> thus must be 
> > > GPL'ed unless excused by the copyright holder(s).
> > >
> > > I spoke with Oscar before I released the plugins I wrote 
> to verify 
> > > he at least did not mind that I would be releasing 
> plugins not under 
> > > the GPL license. I'd that was as good as an agreement 
> ;)... But of 
> > > course an email would not hold up in court as well as a 
> entry/page 
> > > on the website about licensing of plugins/extensions. 
> This assuming 
> > > "the pLog team" is going to sue you which isn't likely, but 
> > > certainly worth the concern since recent growth of pLog has 
> > > increased.
> > >
> > > All in all its a gray area until the copyright holders 
> choose, so to 
> > > say...
> > >
> > > --
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