[pLog-general] Your thoughts on 1.1
michael
jackass at bestweb.net
Mon Apr 11 15:25:22 GMT 2005
My front-end is still being built so there is not much to test... and I
noticed my custom urls are not working for archives and categories...
but I believe I read there is a patch for that bug... need to fix it
today.
http://vloggerblog.org/index.php
this site is hosted at ibiblio.org.
-----Original Message-----
From: plog-general-bounces at devel.plogworld.net
[mailto:plog-general-bounces at devel.plogworld.net] On Behalf Of Jon Daley
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:18 AM
To: plog-general at devel.plogworld.net
Subject: RE: [pLog-general] Your thoughts on 1.1
Well, you got me curious, I don't pay attention to the speed of
admin pages, other than I use them, so if it was particularly slow, I
thought I would have seen it.
I think the non-admin side is more important for speed, since
presumably, that is what gets used more. But, anyway, I clicked through
the admin page on my 400mhz 1.0.1 system. Here are my times:
2.5 seconds for login prompt
3 seconds after login
6 seconds for new post page.
(the page comes up quicker than that, but it takes 2-3 seconds for
all of the html area icons to load. I start typing before the
page is fully loaded, or if I am not entering a new post, typically,
I click on a link before the icons have loaded)
5 seconds to show all posts.
2 seconds to show categories
2 seconds to show a paticular category.
3 seconds to show resource center
(though I don't use resources, so it is empty)
3 seconds to show control center.
3 seconds to show "blog settings"
1 second to show administration.
3 seconds to show "blogs" under admin.
4 seconds to show "general settings".
I assume this is vastly different from your system? What kind
of
machine/how loaded is it?
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, michael wrote:
> Well, it takes 5-10 seconds to load admin pages.
> And, the lag and large mem usage of plog 1.0 has already been
discussed
> so I don't think I have a unique situation.
>
> Its mostly admin area. I might try removing some plugins. If a
plugin
> is not enabled, does it still use system resources?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plog-general-bounces at devel.plogworld.net
> [mailto:plog-general-bounces at devel.plogworld.net] On Behalf Of Jon
Daley
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:33 AM
> To: plog-general at devel.plogworld.net
> Subject: RE: [pLog-general] Your thoughts on 1.1
>
> Do you have a side by side comparison of the two?
> This is completely not what I have seen.
>
> Compare this server: http://snurgle.org/~jondaley/plog/ (plog 1.0.1
> trunk,
> a machine heavily loaded with 20 users actively logged in most of the
> time, uptime generally reports 3 to 4) running over a 768kbps DSL
line)
>
> to this machine: http://sca.salemsattic.com/ (plog 0.3.2, no idea
about
> the machine specs, network connection is much faster than 768kpbs)
>
> When I upgraded snurgle, the speed increased. I don't have numbers to
> support that, only a feeling. The machine has: 400Mhz intel
processor,
> 512MB RAM, 5 apache processes, taking 60MBs currently. With the 218
> processes and 23 users currently using it, I would think if any
> machine would be slow running plog, it would be this one.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, michael wrote:
>> Smarty Caching turned on.
>> plog 1.0 is slower.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: plog-general-bounces at devel.plogworld.net
>> [mailto:plog-general-bounces at devel.plogworld.net] On Behalf Of Jon
> Daley
>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:23 AM
>> To: plog-general at devel.plogworld.net
>> Subject: RE: [pLog-general] Your thoughts on 1.1
>>
>> You mean if you have caching turned off it is slower? Certainly
>>
>> with caching 1.0 is significantly faster. Every time I look at a
> 0.3.2
>> blog I think, hmm.. why is this taking so long.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, michael wrote:
>>> Hi Oscar,
>>> Thanks for the update. Sounds good.
>>>
>>> I did not want to blame plog for this right away.... but it does
seem
>>> that plog 1.0 is much slower. I was checking into other factors
> since
>> I
>>> am on a new server, but I am certain now that the memory usage has
>>> caused lag.
>>> So, great to hear about new work being done to improve this.
>>>
>>> A quick feature request that may be small enough to be considered
for
>>> next release...
>>>
>>> - extend custom fields to optionally be added to resource items (add
>>> more metadata)
>>>
>>> michael
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: plog-general-bounces at devel.plogworld.net
>>> [mailto:plog-general-bounces at devel.plogworld.net] On Behalf Of Oscar
>>> Renalias
>>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:50 AM
>>> To: plog-general at devel.plogworld.net
>>> Subject: [pLog-general] Your thoughts on 1.1
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> just wanted to know your opinion about 1.1.
>>>
>>> I was thinking that the development cycle for 1.0 was way too long
> and
>>> exhausting and that the amount of changes was too big (the amount of
>>> bugs has proven to be proportional to the amount of changes
>>> introduced) That's probably one of the reasons why we have had so
> many
>>> support requests in the forums so my idea is to shorten the
>>> development cycle, even if that means bothering users with upgrades
> to
>>> their installations every 2-3 months.
>>>
>>> Ben has already started to work on improving the performance in 1.1
>>> and the results are more than promising even though work on that
> front
>>> will continue. Although I never thought that pLog is slow when using
>>> the right setup, any performance improvement is good :-) Believe me,
>>> these changes are so promising that they are enough to warrant a new
>>> release.
>>>
>>> Since users only care about new features, we can take Ben's
>>> improvements, throw in some smaller candy features for users to be
>>> happy and we have a 1.1 release.These are some of the smallish
>>> features that I have in mind:
>>>
>>> - new screens to see all trackbacks and comments.
>>>
>>> - everything searchable in the admin backend, so that we can search
>>> categories, users or even links (useful when we've got a lot of
pages
>>> full of these items)
>>>
>>> - possibilty to upload new files through the pop-up window that
> allows
>>> to insert resources to posts in the "new post" page.
>>>
>>> - integration of the anti-spam filter with trackbacks.
>>>
>>> Other big features such as 'friends list', moblogging or integration
>>> with other tools such as phpbb, vbulletin or mambo will have to
wait.
>>> Basically because of the reasons described above, because I don't
> feel
>>> so motivated anymore and because it's time to allow new people to
> join
>>> the team and bring new energy. So if anybody wants to take these
>>> challenges and work on them, be my guest. If not, then we'll have to
>>> wait.
>>>
>>> Any comments?
>>>
>>> Oscar
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