[pLog-general] Meeting with Blog China's CTO and Blog ProjectManager

[su baochen]

vote +1 for the time schedule:-)

在2004年11月04日的12:07，Mark Wu写道：
> Hi All:
> 
> 1. I think it is for sure that we can use this information for marketing,
> but we need to mentioned that they do a lot of modification by themselves, I
> guess.
> 2. How  about I ask them for the current DB schema? We can discuss this on
> the meeting for more detail.
> 3. I do not think they will adapt the 1.0 in the future, because they
> modified a lot. But I believe we can ask them to join the test and future
> development. It will be good for both sides.
> 4. About the coding help. I think we can ask them to help. But I did not
> mentioned in yesterday MSN meeting with them. Sorry!
> 
> ** Okay, How about we meet at next Monday Night 11/8 9:00 pm (Taiwan Time)
> 11/8 9:00 Pm (Taiwan) GMT+8
> 11/8 9:00 pm (Benjing) GMT+8
> 11/8:2:00 PM (Francesc) GMT+1
> 11/8:3:00 PM (Oscar) GMT+2
> 
> Is the time okay for everyone? Please kindly let me know!
> 
> Regards, Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plog-general-bounces at devel.plogworld.org
> [mailto:plog-general-bounces at devel.plogworld.org] On Behalf Of Oscar
> Renalias
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 1:07 AM
> To: plog-general at devel.plogworld.org
> Subject: Re: [pLog-general] Meeting with Blog China's CTO and Blog
> ProjectManager
> 
> This is all good news... thanks for the efforts :)
> 
> > I just got contact with BlogChina's CTO - Donald Yu , and their Blog 
> > Project Manager - JianXiang
> > 
> > They told me they are very happy can have some contact with pLog Team 
> > ...:D
> > 
> > The following is the meeting minutes about tonight MSN meeting:
> > 
> > 1. Their blog hosting service is over 60,000 blogs right now .... NOT 
> > 20,000 bloggers (Their service just start 3 month, there targe is over 
> > 1M bloggers)
> 
> Amazing! Is there any way we can use these figures to market ourselves?
> 
> > 2. They like pLog, because
> > 
> >   - Great MVC framework, easy to follow and maintain
> > 
> >   - DB Struture is good
> > 
> > 3. They don't like pLog, because
> > 
> >   - Bad perfomance!! They do the following to improve the performance
> > 
> >     )) Add Indexs to pLog Tables, They complains a lot of this :P
> 
> this is easy to add to wizard.php, when creating the tables or when updating
> from 0.3.x to 1.0.
> 
> The only problem is that we actually lack the infrastructure and the time to
> perform extensive load tests and stress test the code... (or I least, I lack
> it myself, don't know if anybody would be willing to help in that area) I
> know performance has to improve but I have never had the time to run any
> real tests and get some cold figures so that I can get an idea of what and
> where to improve (even more, if needed)
> 
> >     )) Separate the plog_article table to two, plog_article and 
> > plog_article_text to increas search perfomance
> 
> I'm not an expert DBA, will it really help?
> 
> >     )) Add smarty cache and apache cache to increase the page load and 
> > descrease server loading
> 
> The smarty cache has been added and it works wonderfully.
> 
> The HTTP cache has also been implemented via HTTP conditional requests and
> HTTP
> 302 responses, for those clients that support it (IE and firefox do it very
> well, Safari behaves strangely and I've got no clue about Opera, Koqueror,
> etc) The only thing to keep in mind is that HTTP cache doesn't make any
> sense without Smarty cache... But together they both work great.
> 
> >     )) .... Actually, they re-write most of the codes .... 
> 
> Any example?
> 
> > 4. They host the blog on one server (DB+AP) and apache cache in 
> > another server (2 machines)
> > 
> > Okay, The most important is =====>  I already told them I would like 
> > to host a online conference for pLog core team and BlogChina members, 
> > they are very happy about this idea. So .... Please let me know your 
> > time, and I can arrange the meeting!!
> 
> I am unfortunately very busy at the moment, but I believe we can try to find
> a suitable time for everybody... My time zone is GMT+2 as far as I remember
> :-)
>  
> > I think we can discuss with them about
> > 
> > 1. pLog 1.0 features
> 
> We can describe what we've added but I don't think we should add too many
> more things at this late stage. There will always be time for that in an
> eventual 1.1 or 1.2 release.
> 
> > 2. pLog performance improvement discussion
> 
> Smarty cache and HTTP caching will make a huge difference. Of course you
> have to keep in mind that things like plugins will *not* work with cached
> pages (basically because the page is cached and plog's core won't generate
> it again until there is a change triggered by events such as a new post, or
> an updated post, or a new category, etc)
> 
> Other than, I'm willing to hear about suggestions on how to improve the
> database performance. My knowledge doesn't get too far when it comes to that
> area...
> 
> > 3. others ----> any suggestions???
> 
> Yes: we need help coding. Or else we won't be able to release anything
> before 2nd quarter 2005... :(
> 
> Also another comment, is there any way you could ask them to fetch the
> latest version of the code from the svn repository and give it a quick try?
> At least they'll get an idea of what's coming!
> 
> Oscar
> 
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